I should stress that this type of application is likely to wait several weeks/months before it is considered but your solicitor should be able to keep you informed, Comment by Can our solicitors apply to court to get an order to have the title transferred or will we have to wait until the vendors get the right paperwork sent from America. What happens if paper deeds have different information to what you have on file? Thank you Adam, my husband has reminded me that the form we filled in will be in his name john Yardley as we were not married at the time we bought the house,don't know if that will make any difference, I have so much appreciation for any dealing with forms all day 21 May 2020. You can apply for a copy of the lease by post https://www.gov.uk/get-information-about-property-and-land/copies-of-deeds Heather the biggest scam ever 0 out 130,000 for customer care, Comment by posted on Many thanks. Enter credit card information for secure processing. Comment by StewartF LiamA . We bought our house in 1968 and it was registered. posted on Have a read of the GOV.UK guidance on joint property ownership to see what you can do posted on 13 February 2019. 24 January 2020. Comment by They will have a specific department for doing this so its they who decide and then notify a Royal Mail. 04 December 2020. 26 June 2019. 04 February 2021, Lisa - a Q for HMRC and not us Im afraid, Comment by Data Source: U.S. Census Bureau; American Community Survey, 2018 ACS 5-Year Estimates. this is now going to cost my mum over 1000 to obtain his 1/2 as it states in his will. "I was, and still am, looking for the original deeds showing the owner of the land our property is built on and the details of those who have occupied it ever since." See section 3.2.3 for the extent of guidance we can provide on upgrading a good leasehold title https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/upgrading-the-class-of-title, Comment by posted on JohnnyW 09 November 2018. Comment by But modern techniques such as google maps etc can mean they do take a look in some way but very much something to go back to your conveyancer with to see what they say, Comment by 12 September 2018, Louise - the average timescale is around 34 working days at present. Many thanks for your prompt reply. Dan - HC1 is for a specific edition of the register on a certain date. The problem I have is that I've just been told that my deeds could have been destroyed after been copied onto electronic copies to save on space. Issue no.2 which i'm struggling to understand. Please check NCcourts.gov about your court date or call the Clerk of Court at 828-695-6102. Why is there such a difference please? Comment by Glenn, Comment by Adam, first of all thanks for your prompt reply. As a residents management company we hold paper documents confirming owners will abide by the covenants of the close. North Carolina Association of Registers of Deeds > Find Your Register of Deeds > Catawba County. Comment by Adam when I fill the form out I can't see how I would pay via direct debit as I don't own a cheque book. The new provider wrote to me 2016 requesting these documents but I have kept them. Find Catawba County residential property records including deed records, titles, mortgages, sales, transfers & ownership history, parcel, land, zoning & structural descriptions, valuations, tax assessments & more. Santander removed one of the charges in December last year but the other two remain. posted on Are these land search numbers? posted on If the deeds are marked as 'filed' in the register then HM . Robert - As the property has not been registered with us we will not hold any information. posted on 09 January 2020. I also agree that if you have your paper deeds, you should keep them to be able to check any additional information. Our buyer needs the completion of the registration for the Deed of Variation before they will set a date for completion. Comment by Comment by 05 October 2018. I have looked at my title plan, but no information is detailed there. Now have the night off, you must be frazzled. FENSA and Oil/has/electrical certificates She sent a copy of the land registry and I could see where this was. Serving since: 2004. I am switching mortgage provider and there is a field for the title number. how do I get this changed? You can download a copy of the register from our Find a Property Service on GOV.UK for 3: https://www.gov.uk/search-property-information-land-registry . Where a conveyancer is acting, different procedures do apply in that they can lodge only certified copy documents. I can provide details of the land which is registered to me so you can see the unregistered part. I moved house back in April. posted on My neighbour wishes to gift his interest in the land, whatever that is, to his only son. Sharon - the reference relates to an application submitted yesterday. It is also on the road side verge and the piece of land next to it. Pat - a buyer would rely on the registered details so if the leasehold tenure is registered theyd confirm with us and get a copy of the registered lease. sam The plan is to replace said house which currently doesn't have rear access to our road, with 8 new flats (18 bedrooms in total), parking for 9 cars and vehicular access via our road in a place where it isn't safe (narrow road, very close to a tight corner). Chris I'm looking to remortgage a property and add my wife. Comment by Once a property is registered the proof of ownership is held by us in the form of an electronic register and title plan, Comment by posted on posted on HM Land Registry: processing times. There is no scanned part of the deed included. posted on Comment by I'm attempting to establish the value of my house in 1991, when it was valued for Council Tax, and was hoping there may have been a record of it in the deeds, or perhaps the Land Registry has information about historical sale prices. Our online services explain what you can obtain online or by post. posted on Same wording in title deeds as mine but has access rights for the rear of the property in practice. Wayne We have a certificate of lawfulness - how do we go about our next steps to gain deeds to the property or to get a loan against the property or anything similar for the future please ? posted on But are not yet listed as the property owners of the property. Should we have, in our deeds, the other part of the covenant that was signed by our proceeding deed holder that made the covenant . Comment by * At the top of the first page, below the 3-inch margin, state the title of the instrument (i.e. So: posted on Hi, I have a title to a piece of land, received from Land Registry a few years ago. Theda Bara AdamH If there are difficulties with this, you may want to consider seeking independent legal advice, from example, from Citizen's Advice or from a conveyancer such as a solicitor. posted on Comment by 02 May 2018. My concern is if the Land Registry only provide the seller with possessory title we will then be forwarded that title and hold no deeds and wont be able to apply for absolute title for 12 years and then may not be granted it. Brian Leahy Two with Santander and one with your parents. This would be done by the executor(s) transferring to the beneficiary, you for example. Jason - you usually have to wait for them to remove it, say 2 weeks after being told. 18 June 2019, Hi, fascinating and informative reading here not sure you can help me but I have lived in our cottage for years and I have the original lease dating back to the time it was given to the ferry mans the only son in 1837 .. for a 999yrs. 21 February 2018. Comment by My sons bought a maisonette above a storefront in a Victorian building. It is possible that an application is currently pending with us. Dave - if the property is unregistered then the original (title) deeds and documents are important. AdamH We are going to loose the sale of house and just want some advice on what we can do, Comment by My solicitor is saying all they actually own is the ground rent and not the actual property. Also that the Land Charges Index does not record the ownership of unregistered land. So even though the register / deeds may not refer to the postal address, when searching, the Property Gazetter enables the searcher to link the address with the title number based on the information referred to. But those certificates would have only contained a copy of the title register and usually only copies of any conveyancing deeds. posted on posted on They replied that they no longer kept such items as they were to bulky. AdamH posted on Q1. my husband and I bought a house that was on leasehold in 2005. It was registered so I am very puzzled as to why it could have not been found? Hi Adam, I hope you don't mind me jumping in. Comment by As far as we are aware the original paper copy of our Deeds, is held with our previous solicitor. Madeleine M ianflowers https://www.gov.uk/get-information-about-property-and-land/copies-of-deeds, Comment by 03 October 2018, Still C - once a property is registered the electronic record is essentially the 'title deed'. So from your perspective if the property was registered several years before your purchase and there had been intervening sales/purchases then it is quite likely that Santander never had the original deeds/documents. We have paid our mortgage in June and were told by the lender to apply for the Title Deeds at the Land Registry. I would much appreciate if you can clarify me with these 2 queries please. that we need to submit in support of an application form AP1? posted on posted on Leela - please note the wording '(a) to grant with the dwelling-house all such easements and rights over other property, so far as the landlord is capable of granting them .. (b) to make the dwelling-house subject to all such easements and rights for the benefit of other property ' In short, I have had a very difficult time with the solicitor I chose for the conveyancing. That does make sense although I dont remember ever being asked to check this and unfortunately it isnt something I ever would have thought to check myself. We appreciate the speed of your response and look forward to your recommendation. May I assume therefore, that the paper Title Deeds do not need to be amended because digital records of legal title are now held in Land Registry? Now, I am a person of a generous disposition so my immediate thought was, perhaps because he is a solicitor he interpreted my statement that, I was looking for the deeds of our property as, I was looking for the title of ownership of the property. posted on We received the Original many years later from the Comment by 17 March 2020. Steven Ingram We have purchased land next to a plot gained by adverse possession and the owner is claiming their boundary is actually outside of the existing fence even though it has never been defined by them. posted on Find 6 Recorders Of Deeds within 28.6 miles of Catawba County Recorder of Deeds. Liz - Hi. On updates to an existing register no pre-registration deeds will be lodged and therefore our practice differs and originals may be scanned and destroyed in some circumstances. posted on posted on Apologies if this has been asked and answered. 21 August 2020, Lisa - most likely yes. IFC posted on 14 January 2020, Y Aung - the registered details will confirm what is registered within each tenure and presumably the leases confirm which land is included/shared etc. posted on Neil Croft 09 October 2018. I am thinking it is an error. posted on (Unlike this page, the advice on the web pages with those forms isn't clear for someone like me who simply wants the paperwork with their name on it as owner(s) of their property. Wayne - This type of application is currently taking 52 working days on average, from the date the application was lodged with us for registration. AdamH Our title register number is WA610900, Rhys - the register refers to it as being filed so I imagine your solicitor got a copy before you bought the title. Share certificates County Office is not affiliated with any government agency. Comment by Comment by You'll need to get one from your Post Office. My parents have never registered their property with Land Registry. I may not need the *entire* title deeds but just a copy of the lease, in order to extend same. 19 September 2020. peter brooks https://help.landregistry.gov.uk/app/contactus_bereavement?utm_medium=GOV.UK&utm_source=govuk&utm_campaign=death_contact_page_to_guide&utm_content=web_page_ From an inheritance perspective properties can pass down through families through wills/inheritance. Sharon - Some properties are unregistered as there has not been a recent event such as a sale or mortgage which would trigger registration for the first time. Surely this can easily lead to theft or fraud using my original deeds. The Register of Deeds office is located in the Alexander County Services Center near Adams Funeral Home and the intersection of Highway 16 South and West Main Avenue. If you do decide to this, you will need to apply by post - OC1 is to apply for a copy of the register and/or title plan and OC2 is for a copy of a deed that is referred to as 'filed' in the title register and also for any deeds that we may hold but which are not referred to in the title register. sue posted on She was indicted by a Catawba County grand jury . Lauren Jones My flat leasehold purchase completed today. Nick - the online register will be the up to date detail. 01 November 2018. Norma L, Comment by It reads as if either they did not apply to remove it; we failed to remove it when they did; of there were perhaps two legal charges in their favour but they only applied to remove one of them at the time. If the property was already registered when you bought it then it is highly unlikely that the lender had any old deeds/documents other than a copy of the land register itself. I contacted the Western Mail who noted the story. Thank you for your reply. Firms who say they hold nothing as all dematerialised are lazy as they should seek that pack. 21 June 2018, We are in the process of selling our house but our buyers have a problem with their title on the sale of their own house, hence stalling everything. AdamH Published: Dec. 7, 2021 at 2:17 PM PST. Comment by My house purchase has been held up for several months because my solicitor states they have not been able to adduce the title documents, but: 1) The vendor was able to obtain a mortgage without any difficulties and to the best of my knowledge they did not obtain these documents or encounter this problem; and. Now, in 2020 we have decided to get that security cleared off and the bank has confirmed that it has taken off the charge on the land registry. Comment by Both properties are registered at LR but the titles do not mention anything about right of way. Comment by 04 November 2020, Ian & Glen - its the local authority that approves the postal address(es). Brian - understood and I hope that you both remain healthy and are able to locate the original deeds. I was hesitant to provide this information as I thought it was a confidential document but they advised they would remove my property from the market if I did not provide this. 11 December 2018. Comment by Catawba County - North Carolina Association of Registers of Deeds posted on Ron - understood so if the deed is filed and you dont have a copy you need form OC2 and 7 cheque/postal order to apply for one, Comment by Firstly let me say I find the Land Registry blogs far more usable than the help pages for a "normal" person like me trying to avoid the expense of the legal profession to manage a fairly simple, small estate. When it was paid off/redeemed many lenders would send in the Charge Certificate to be destroyed as since 2000 we no longer produce such certificates. Adrian https://help.landregistry.gov.uk/app/contactus_bereavement?utm_medium=GOV.UK&utm_source=govuk&utm_campaign=death_contact_page_to_guide&utm_content=web_page_, I havent Adam but I will try that thank you, Comment by I will do that Jason As mentioned in the blog, if the property is not registered and the deeds have been lost, then the process for first registration is more involved - https://bit.ly/2JFDRmb. posted on Thanks for your reply, Michele - I'm sorry you think that the information is a 'joke'. I suspect they have sent you the Charge Certificate - if so then simply keep that if you wish to. When your solicitor has submitted it then they will need to supply documentary evidence to confirm the onward purchase and also ask us to expedite their application. Youll need to resolve this through Santander with details of your original mortgage account number and record of payments. 15 July 2020, Sam - Solicitors Regulation Authority https://www.sra.org.uk/, Comment by Now our property is Corporate owned. Clearly something was 'wrong' but that invariably means the question is one of cause and effect of that error. Have a question about missing deeds and property not registered with land registry. The registered details can still help but often only in conjunction with other information as well as shared understanding of how you and your neighbour(s) view the boundaries. I have tried to get through all of the above exchanges and many of my questions have been answered, thanks. So why do you not have a copy of our title deeds when you have everything else? If it is at the time of consideration then it can be registered, Comment by AdamH AdamH S Scott Our online guidance takes you through it so start with the register and go from there Having done a search of their property address from your blogs link I see that Tenure and other additional information is showing N/A. Diana C Any original statutory declarations, statements of truth, subsisting leases, subsisting charges, certificates relating to Stamp Duty Land Tax or Land Transaction Tax and the latest document of title (such as the transfer to the applicant) will be retained, scanned and then destroyed. You can approach a local museum or perhaps the County Records office but no guarantees either would want them, Comment by 07 June 2019, John - applications for copy deeds are normally round around in 2 to 3 days, Comment by diane As to what is needed to cancel the mortgage and receive the 'deeds' that something that you'd need to discuss further with the mortgage company involved. John - understood and very much the right thing to do. 06 March 2019, Sandra - cym552050 is the freehold title which you own with Stephen. Jo M Comment by ianflowers 17 March 2020, Fairer - if it's referred to as being 'filed' on the register then you can apply by post for a copy https://www.gov.uk/get-information-about-property-and-land/copies-of-deeds, Comment by ianflowers Feel free to contact us with questions or comments you may have regarding these records and our office. They do not tell you the truth until you kick up a stink. The office records, manages and preserves real estate and land records, vital data on birth, death and marriage certificates, and military discharge and service records. posted on posted on If it is urgent then you should speak to your conveyancer as they should be aware of the process for asking us to expedite their application, Comment by posted on And to be honest writing to the landowner and alerting them to the issue may heighten the risk for you and may also invalidate any opportunity of insuring against the risks that may currently exist. Is the reference to "plan of the above Title" the same as "Title Deeds"? The price wont have been on the register so no point in checking. An earlier post by IanFlowers in January 2019 stated that: "If you decide to apply now you can do this by letter and this should supported by a letter from the parish council / local authority authorising the change together with any other available evidence. Neil - I'm afraid we can't really offer any additional guidance here and you should rely on your solicitor. 1. Hugh Buckeridge posted on Two weeks later they have not even bothered to write me a letter to say they can't find them. SHARON SHARON JACKSON RESTRICTION: No disposition by a sole proprietor of the registered estate (except a trust corporation) under which capital money arises is to be registered unless authorised by an order of the court. Please help. ianflowers An indemnity policy is an a option to consider in these cases, but as you've mentioned this may have limitations and again it's something to discuss with your solicitor. posted on this is yet another example of taking money out of people for no service or customers care. Does this turn the mortgage into an unsecured loan? They each own 1/2 share. In addition to this, there'd be the documents returned on the completion of the registration application, usually to the solicitors acting. Can you please direct me on what to do or what application form do i need to fill up and payment if possible. 23 June 2020. Jeff Crowder AdamH Rhys - it would. ), in case that further invalidates any chance of finding a suitable indemnity if one is needed. How do i search for information on the land the house was built on if there are no deeds existing ? Lew posted on 06 November 2020, Carol - work through our online Q and As to get the guidance you need But most converted their own records to electronic format and in that case would normally have been required to return any paper deeds to the borrower. posted on posted on My dad built his own home in 1954. 28 August 2018. posted on The Land Registry Title Deed makes no mention of that condition so has it been lost in the digitising process and no longer applicable? 25 February 2019. 22 May 2020. Hi. I have paid to download the leasehold title, and confirmed that it is almost identical to the copy I have from when I purchased the flat.