The Hide Armory. Nosler's newest cartridge, the 27 Nosler was introduced last year as a modern makeover of the time-honored .270 Win. . AccuBond and 165-gr. As a result, bullet manufacturers have never made high-BC bullets in .277 diameter (the actual size of .270 Win. Taurus has redesigned this sporting pistol for performance. with proper scope to take advantage of range would have capabilities at 1,200 yards on elk and such game. ..also gonna run the 170 EOL'sand maybe the 140 BD'2's. I have been running a 27 nosler for a few years,26/28 dies wont work.RCBS makes 27 nosler dies that are readily available. SIG is fairly confident in getting military contract(s). The Cutting Edge 140-gr. (possibly NX8 4-32) Hoping for thoughts and ideas Jun 16, 2021 #2 N NK Hunter Member Joined Jun 16, 2021 What we need is better bullet launchers. Another yawn fest from Nosler. Sign up with your email address to receive news and updates. In addition to the heavy-for-caliber Nosler ABLR, Browning introduced a new 175-grain .270 bullet in its Long Range Pro line. Available in high performance Nosler calibers from 22 to 33, plus popular offerings such as the 6.5 Creedmoor, 308 Win. Short and fat, it is extremely efficient. Fun fact for all the bUt jACk OcONnor!! Other rifle makers will take years to jump on board. Before concluding, I must remind you that the classic .270 Winchester is not compatible with the superbly aerodynamic new projectiles unless you fit an aftermarket barrel with a fast 1:8 rifling twist rate. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Apr 27, 2022. beetroot. Im not sure Id switch from. That wouldnt be all that difficult. Then 2007 happened. Jul 1, 2019 #4 ; Thats right, i forgot. The 26 Nosler came first in 2014, followed by the 28. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Nope. From the postWorld War II era right up to the early 2000s, the .270 was a colossus among big-game hunting cartridges, a mighty twin of the immortal .30/06. (Note: These were handloads, so the factory velocities might be different.) Well, Nosler is coming out with a new 165-grain AccuBond Long Range bullet this year, which the company anticipates will be the marquee load for the 27. But Ill keep my 7mm-08 for the family. It weighed 8 pounds, 13.5 ounces with a Bushnell 1.5-6X Elite 4200 scope in a Talley lightweight mount. The type of steel remains the same, but the bolt is now machined by Nosler from bar stock. The difference in bullet drop is less than four inches. That is, not unless you replace that 1:10-twist factory barrel with a custom barrel with a 1:8 twist. Nosler advertises that the 27 Nosler case has approximately 43%more case capacity than the .270 Winchester, about 25% more case capacity than the 270 WSM, and about 12.5% more case capacity than the .270 Weatherby.Not surprisingly, this additional powder capacity translates into extra velocity, more kinetic energy, less wind drift, and a flatter trajectory when using the same bullets. Theyre cool on paper but I dont know what Id do with them. An all-out, full-throttle kinda cartridge, it pushes that 165-grain ABLR bullet at an eyebrow-raising 3,150 fps. If needed, 27 Nosler brass can be formed from 30 Nosler brass. Pushing a relatively long skinny 150 gr. Live Chat Live Chat. Should Nosler eventually move forward with production rifles chambered for this cartridge, a 1:8 twist would be in order. The .270 Winchester, depending on what/how you loaded it, could be bordering on overbore or well into overbore status. AccuBond bullet is good news because, at the conservative distances that I and most other hunters take big game, it retains a higher percentage of its original weight than the two Long Range versions. There are some absurdly slick 7mm bullets available now of very high quality. We use cookies to make your experience better. See what happens. the 27 Nosler drops 11 less than a 270 Win and 7 less than a 270 WSM. DESCRIPTION 27 Nosler Unprimed Rifle Brass Box of 50 by PETERSON CARTRIDGE COMPANY Product Overview: Peterson Cartridge Company is a family-owned, American manufacturer of match-grade, brass rifle casings and loaded ammunition that is among the most precise and consistent on the market, delivering discerning long-distance shooters sub-MOA accuracy. The result is a standard setting offering from Nosler that redefines performance as radically now as the 270 Winchester did upon its introduction in 1925. Just like the other Nosler cartridges (with the exception of the 22 Nosler), the 27 Nosler uses a rebated rim case descended from the .300 Remington Ultra Magnum, which is itself descended from the .404 Jeffery. Loaded with a 150gr bullet, the 27 Nosler is 400fps faster than a 270 Win, and 300fps faster than a 270 WSM at the muzzle. Other than the heavy mirage in the scope, and a slight correction for the left-to-right crosswind, the 440-yard shot couldnt have been more straightforward. One more cartridge that has a rep as a barrel burner: the 6.5-284. A few days later, my guide and I managed to locate an old 32 mule deer across a canyon in the high country. For this reason, the Nosler Model 21 rifle has a crisp, user defined feel. Long range rifle build. The 27 Nosler is based on a necked-down .404 Jeffrey case, as are many other Nosler cartridges. Both sides of the wrist and fore-end have textured panels, but when hands become cold and wet during a hunt, molded-in checkering would offer a more secure grip. and .375 Holland & Holland Magnum, but it took very little reading between the lines to see that the .270 was his favorite. My Peterson contact says they are in the development stage for 27 Nosler brass, so got that to look forward to. You can see these barreled actions for sale at Brownells. Ok, that's good to know. In 1970, Jack OConnor, who was a major force behind the .270s ascendance, said that by his estimation, more custom sporting rifles had been chambered in that cartridge than in any other in the postwar years. Today, as a result, cartridges that dont have a reputation for superior accuracybacked up by success in competitionor that dont fill a specific niche are having a rough go of it. U.S. wanted 30-06 because of logistics. Extremely important on a big-game rifle, all cartridges fed smoothly from the magazine. COPYRIGHT 2023, WOMG. Some figured the .270 was too small for use on anything but deer. will likely forever remain unanswered. My favorite .270 rifles today are a Model 70 Featherweight built by Winchester in 1959 and a Remington Model 700 American Wilderness Rifle with a 24-inch barrel. However, the 6.5 Creedmoor was only the most conspicuous piece in a series of trends that dethroned the .270. Learn all the details about this new rifle in my Nosler M21 review. | The .22-250 AI is a notorious barrel burner especially when the shooter gets into a situation where theyre banging away at prairie dogs or ground squirrels in a dense population, sending round after round downrange, to the point where the shooter would burn their hand quite nicely if they grabbed their rifle by the barrel. Well, the folks at Nosler decided to use a 1:8.5" twist barrel for their M48 rifles chambered in 27 Nosler. If I was going to get into long distance shooting and had the money I would look long and hard at this cartridge in a Nosler mountain rifle. .458 Winchester Magnum History: The Complete Story, SIG Sauer P365 Pistol Now Offered in .380, 5 Best Long-Range Hunting Bullets Available Right Now, Springfield Armory SA-35 Pistol: Rebirth of the Browning P-35 Hi-Power, Casting Your Own Bullets for Lever-Action Rifles. In light varmint bullets, theyll both be shooting the same weight of bullets (lets say 40 to 52 grain pills) and with the same twist rifling (lets say 1:12). Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. The bolt would close and lock up on a case, but the fit was a bit too snug. rifles, but anytime tall mountains are to be climbed, a lighter rifle will hang from my shoulder. and 6.5 PRC. I really respect your insight and the knowledge you bring to so many subjects here on TTAG. Conceived as a 21st century upgrade to existing 270 calibers, the 27 Nosler delivers previously unobtainable downrange ballistics by pairing the ultimate combination of case capacity with modern long-for-caliber bullets. Others, such as the .270, sank like jettisoned ballast. Conceived as a 21st century upgrade, the 27 Nosler delivers previously unobtainable downrange ballistics by pairing the ultimate combination of case capacity with modern long-for-caliber bullets. Upon ignition, the propellant column burns more efficiently than the long, skinny powder columns in the classic .270 Win. 1:8.5 The 27 Noslers faster-than-standard twist barrel is designed to stabilize modern, long range bullets. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. What has to be the most bullet-proof animal in North America took one 140-grain bullet behind its shoulder at 160 yards and immediately went down for the count. Your rifle will still shoot any and all standard .270 Win. For handloaders, Nosler will also offer fully prepared Nosler brass, the aforementioned component bullets, and reloading data for the 27 Nosler. Kevin Steele of Petersen's HUNTING is with Dawn Wehunt of Rock River Arms INC. learning about the new Ascendant platform. Whats old is new again. Buy Nosler M48 Mountain Carbon Bolt Action Rifle .27 Nosler: GunBroker is the largest seller of Bolt Action Rifles Rifles Guns & Firearms All: 984471926. . Which cartridge? All Shooting Times subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. When I built mine there was no load data. OK, lets say you really want to reach out that far with a 140 to 160 grain pill, and you want laser-flat trajectories. There are no factory options available. In my rifle, one of Noslers M48s with a 26-inch carbon-fiber barrel, the 150-grain AccuBond bullets registered an average muzzle velocity of 3129 fps. But do you know how to properly use them? Fully prepped and ready to load, Nosler's gone ahead and done the meticulous case prep work for you. Joseph Von Benedikt is with Rafe Nielsen of Browning to take a look at a new X-Bolt series rifle. If things change change and I choose a Savage action I modify the mag box slightly, but the Wyatt's is easier and they usually come out at 3.840" even though they are advertised as 3.825". To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. Those who think Jack O Conner gave up on the 270 as a cartridge, have a short in their synapses. At 500 yds. Mag. So thats a long way of saying probably not, but it might be possible that it would not cost as much as a Dakota-made or full-custom rifle. Learn more here: http://bit.ly/1G7xXag. can push a similar-weight bullet. JavaScript is disabled. Better bullets, powders, optics, cartridge-case designs, and manufacturing techniques, coupled with sophisticated yet affordable ballistics software, have revolutionized marksmanship for everyday shooters and hunters. I like the trigger and the action on the Howa. Lighter and tougher and more precise than ever, it's the perfect back country hunting rifle. (Just playin, Im not immune to typos either.). But where it deviates from its barrel-diameter brethren is in case capacity. Like the other long-action magnum cartridges in the lineupthe 26, 28, 30, and 33the 27 derives from the .404 Jefferies case, though the preproduction ammo Ive been shooting was formed by necking down 30 Nosler brass. The only guy I found with one was in Australia, of all places, he swore by Reloder 33. That changed somewhat after Bruce Hodgdon introduced military-surplus H4831 in 1950. since 1984. The single stage TriggerTech Field model trigger features a top safety and user adjustable pull weight of 2.5-5 pounds. and 3,302 fps for the .270 WSM for a difference in favor of the .270 WSM of 144 fps. With only 3 rounds in a group, youll find probably one three round group out of a 20-round box of ammo that will do it. The Sako-style extractor plucked fired cases from a dirty chamber without missing a beat, and the spring-loaded plunger ejector propelled spent cases through the port smoothly and with great authority. Due to an extremely high expansion ratio, the little cartridge does not gain a lot of velocity as barrel length is increased beyond 18.5 inches. In 2004 I hunted caribou in Canada, and because two bulls could be taken legally, I took along two Remington 700 rifles, one in 7mm Remington Magnum, the other in 6.8 SPC. Having similar stocks on your rifles, helps to make me proficient moving from one rifle to the other in this environment. Comb height also proved to be a comfortable fit with the lower mounting of the relatively small Nightforce scope I used when shooting the rifle. By the company's numbers, it will kick a 150-grain Nosler AccuBond bullet out the muzzle at around 3,300 fpswhich is screaming, nearly 150 fps faster than the very potent Weatherby. Weatherby rifles chambered for most of the Weatherby cartridges have always had freebored chambers that allow bullets to freetravel quite a long distance prior to engaging the rifling. Well, the .243 case capacity is 52 to 53 gains (water capacity). Whether you decide to breathe new life into an old .270 Winchester by giving it a new fast-twist barrel, opt for the efficient, impressive 6.8 Western short-action magnum, or jump in with both feet and get the daddy dragon of them allthe 27 Nosleryoull be better served by the .270 than ever before. No probs as of yet cases have 2-3 firings on them. These factors add to a rounds inherent accuracy potential and are all part of the 27 Noslers design too. Sign up with your email address to receive news and updates. The 6.8 SPC is rated to handle 80,000 psi of chamber pressure and will drive a 135-grain bullet from SIGs Hybrid Match cartridge, with a .488 G1 BC, 3,000 fps from a 16-inch barrel, and produce 2,694 ft.-lbs of energy and SIGs 277 Fury Hybrid Hunting load features a 140-grain bullet with a .508 G1 BC, launching from a 16-inch barrel at 2,950 fps. Over the decades, millions of deer, elk, sheep, bears and pronghorn have fallen to it, to grace the tables and walls of Americas hunters and add chapters to the American hunting lore. AccuBond with a 0.591 BC. I began preparing handloads by first running virgin 27 Nosler cases through an RCBS full-length resizing die and then used a Lyman E-ZEE Prime tool to seat Federal GM215M primers. Could be wrong. Made entirely of carbon fiber, the stock has a durable Elite Midnight Camo finish, and its angled comb is high enough for a good cheek weld with one of the huge scopes many hunters are fond of today. Mag. Federal has created a safer, easier and more reliable way to shoot a muzzleloader. That did not turn out to be true. This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. Case dimensions were also refined to prevent cross-caliber chambering. The 27 Nosler is presently available in two Model 48 variants, the Mountain Carbon with a 24" barrel and the Long-Range Carbon with a 26" barrel. All Rights Reserved. Heres a brief look at the old-timer followed by four newer cartridges that share its bullet diameterincluding the as yet to be introduced 27 Nosler. I wont go through all the math, Ill just give the number I have in my notes: About 1208. In recent years supporters of the venerable, 95-year-old .270 Winchester have been asking, Hey! I know I cant. Seems like you'll be trying to burn a lot of powder in a .277 bore in a fairly short distance. While there are a handful of options for 160 grain bullets in that caliber, a 1:10"rifling twist rate is usually not quite fast enough to properly stabilize bullets much heavier than 150 grains. 2023 Outdoor Sportsman Group. This doesnt do anything a dozen other chamberings cant do. 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I seldom notice recoil when shooting a rifle at game, but a muzzle brake is nice to have when accuracy testing and developing handloads. Note that while Nosler's proprietary cartridges (to include the 27 Nosler), and the rifles they're available in, are capable of excellent accuracy at long range in the right hands, they're designed primarily for big game hunting, not for competition shooting. All Petersen's Hunting subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. A clearance notch at the front of the comb allows the bolt to be removed without dinging the stock. Brownells is your source for 27 Nosler 360 Buckhammer Rifle Ammo,Ammunition at Brownells parts and accessories. Note also that the 6.8 Western runs neck and neck with the 7mm Rem. Id have to look at some chamber prints to see if a 7mm Rem Mag chamber could be reamed out a tad for 7mm Dakota. 800-741-0015. Expanding bullets of monolithic construction often shoot more accurately when seated for plenty of jump, and that makes those from Barnes, Hornady, Nosler, and others logical options for rifles with freebored chambers. Publisher, Kevin Steele is with Brett Marquardt from Streamlight Inc. discussing the new Streamlight Pro Tac 2.0, the latest edition in the Pro Tac series. The barrel twist on our previous .270sthe Winchester, Winchester Short Magnum, and Weatherby Magnumis 1:10. Make sure to watch till the end. Retired Marine with multiple shoulder surgeries on right shoulder and I shoot 270 now because of recoil and this 27 nosler would give me that heavier bullet and longer range compared to 270 and I'd have basically same recoil with Hawg muzzle suppressor. Since then, they've continued that trend by introducing the 22 Nosler, the 28 Nosler, the 30 Nosler, and the 33 Nosler cartridges to the hunting and shooting worlds. 2023 Outdoor Sportsman Group. Were going to drop the units of square inches in this computation. Mag. Id be surprised to see the barrel last more than a few thousand rounds. without a brake. 3,399. Kali Parmley of Gun Dog Magazine talks to George Thompson from Benelli USA about the new features from the Benelli line in 2023. OK, that seems like a pretty good percentage increase, but what else might be in that region? Cases sized in that manner allowed the bolt to close and lock up with only light resistance. DG, My only criticism of the stock is the large size and shape of its grip. (https://www.tactical-life.com/gear/ammo/277-sig-fury-hybrid-case-design/). Unfortunately, the .270s relatively slow 1:10 rifling twist, as specd in SAAMIs reg book, wont stabilize the stretched-out, heavy, streamlined bullets that offer extremely high ballistic coefficients. Head height is the distance from the mouth of the cartridge case to the tip of the loaded bullet. If anything, the grand old cartridge will receive much needed attention in comparisons such as I have made in this report. Most rifles chambered in 270 Winchester, 270 WSM, and 270 Weatherby have a 1:10" rifling twist rate. Walther's new Performance Duty Pistol is ready for both concealed carry and conventional service situations. Federal, Hornady, HSM, Nosler, Barnes, Remington, DoubleTap, and Winchester offer .270 WSM ammunition. Join F&S+ to read exclusive stories by your favorite writers. Named the 6.8 Western, its a short-action, non-belted magnum. was not a lot faster than the .270 Win. No creep or overtravel were evident. Nosler Pro Staff; Sponsored Shooters; Project 48; . Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. I have not kept an accurate count of the game bagged with the .270 WSM through the years, but I have taken enough to become convinced that all things consideredincluding recoil and performance on gameit might just be the most useful member of the WSM family. I developed the loads for 130- and 160-grain bullets, and while they have not been pressure-tested, they were safe maximums in my rifle. Lets use 68 to make the .270 look as hot as it could be. As youll see, in terms of wind drift, maintained energy and velocity, and bullet drop, the 6.8 Western trounces both the 6.5 Creedmoor and the classic .270 Winchester, even with the latter loaded with a good boattailed, polymer-tipped bullet. Kevin Steele, Publisher of Petersen's HUNTING talks with JJ Reich of HEVI-Shot about the new offerings for 2023. Hunters take a good percentage of shots from their knees or on their butts. Those who generally knock the 270 Winchester havent shot diddle with it. Among my handloads, Reloder 25 and the Swift 130-gr. The only need for new calibers is to sell new rifles. was introduced when he was still climbing sheep mountains, and if he ever hunted with it, I dont recall reading about it. For you youngsters out there, the .404 Jeffery is over 100 years old, and was used to hunt everything in Africa, from lions to elephants. Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. 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