No more Sunday church services, its been liberating in some ways once I shook the guilt off. Some very specific "prophetic words" were simply forgotten or ignored without commentary when The fog will clear eventually. there to help you "pray through" until you did. I just want to know the bible as intended. I have heard false teaching, false prophecies, corrupt teachings and things that people said were of God and were not! You described it very well indeed. The Holiness Movement: Are They God Also, have heard and seen gossip. Its VERY DANGEROUS to say God said so and so when He did not! We will then undergo true REVIVAL, not some emotional gimmick. I mean we were God chasers after all, soooo benevolent we were in great pursuit of God.Nothing says,Ilove you Jesusl like paying big bucks for the T-shirt of our favorite superstar ministers new catch phrase and getting a bonus CD half off. The charismatic movement of the past quarter-century has made an impact on the church unparalleled in history. God does speak to our heart and can speak through another brother or sister to us. Neither do I. I feel I made that clear in the conclusion. Paul wrote to all the believers in one town. An encounter with the living God would probably leave you with a limp. As I was screaming my babblingprayers and becoming exhausted doing it I stopped to look around and thought to myself, So we can just stand here and scream and God does what we say? I look back on that moment and believe God was waking me up to the great delusion I was in. option, but it was also an admission of failure and lack of faith. Let this not become a church bashing agenda here. I got shoved out of the way by burly prayer ushers who were sullen and rude. Timya Robinson started her career as a street cop. When I have been looking for a new church or visiting one, I ask God to show me what is true and what is not true in the message I am hearing from the pulpit. With each this one, that I would wind up sick and possibly even die because I was outside of God's will. Through the years I didnt buy into many of the man-made traditions we had adopted like falling on the floor or thinking one had to speak in tongues to have the Holy Spirit nonetheless I went along with it because I didnt think it was hurting anyone. I had previously thought I was already Spirit-filled because I was a believer. I believe in the Prophetic, but not in the Pathetic. White. It leads to a new moral code at odds with the worlds, and it will not be acceptable to that same world that prefers darkness rather than light; it is incomprehensible to it. He knows best, He knows where He wants to use you. A Serious Question for Black Americans (esp. I was very hurt that someone deceived me and tagged Gods name to it. Get it and READ IT! Its not fun, its grueling and has caused me to really question in new ways what is and is not God. not nearly as smart or skilled or spiritual or useful as I thought I was, that I would never find another church like I've heard your story from others though. It is not the baby and bath water, what is a baby doing in the filthy water in the first place. I think you are taking my words out of context. I left the Charismanic movement for good. So weve moved on from casting the proverbial boulders onto all things Pentecostal to the SDA now have we? 32 And you will know the Truth, and the Truth will set you free. The trouble all starts because God never intended for the Body of Christ to be maintained as a business. (There seem to be a lot) it is sporadic. It was a I was 21 years old when I truly came to know Christ and now I am 40 and let me tell you this stuff gets old. From here I ventured to Pennsylvania for a couple days to stay with another couple who had previously left our church and whose present church had dropped out of the I began to notice a theme; I was all about US and not God. were responsible for the members of the church, and it was their duty to warn them and discipline them if they were Im certain at one point I was pursuing God but it became an idol itself. In these emotional services People are spinning and dancing and that must mean we really have the spirit, right? I will certainly look it up. No thinking Christian could or should attempt to dispute them. Wow. People would naturally I believe you said you are a pastor? I guess I shouldnt be surprised that my testimony resonates with so many people. . Why He's still in the business of working miracles every day, but just in a little different way. That is why we need to be careful and use discernment and not throw the baby with the bathwater. Any more than Homosexuality in the Church started with the United Methodist Church. Its like, maybe they need to get the blinders off their own eyes before trying to point a finger at someone else. I feel fortunate that every teaching from the pulpit, and Sabbath school, was straight from the bible and cross referencing scriptures according to the lesson we were studying. Acts 17:10-12 NKJV God led me out of the movement and today I am free! God bless! I really saw God's favor working in my life as I humbled myself and sought his guidance. WebSo leaving Pentecostalism was just one step, the first of many slow & painful steps as I finally accepted that healing wasnt going to come & chances are Ive never saw God move In the situation not because he didnt want to but perhaps because he wasnt. As an apologist for 26+ years I have publicly addressed many of these issues and this link will take you to a section of an Index on the ministry web site where many of these personalities and their ministries are the subject matter. This is my story. I was raised as an Assemblies of God Pentecostal by my parents, and I went to a medium much of their appeal. Those who claim to be exposing false teaching need to make sure their doctrine is right before judging someone else. Sorry. It is so difficult to be discerning when you are hearing 80 or 90% truth and I will not claim to be a Bible scholar. Some of the most intense growing up spiritually years of my life. And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified. Anyways, you know this. Total conformity is required to fit in although it is unspoken, everyone knows it. Clearly. Praise God. Services, classes or other I just so happen to read this from Acts 20, today: Ive heard so many prophesies about Donald Trump being chosen by God. You need both. I am quite familiar with the biblical accounts of external manifestations of Gods power. This is why I mentioned Rick Joyner. I feel John MacArthurs point of view is more biblically accurate and very on point about this movement. Its not an apostasy in toto. I have been raised a Seventh Day Adventist all of my life. Go read this book( the Great Controversy) written by E.G. I was so happy to read your message! It discerns the intentions of the heart. In fact, we will all stand before God and give an account for our words and actions. activities took place almost every night of the week, and I was there whenever the doors were open. The highs were tremendous, but the lows were horrible. The problem is instead of reading our word spending time in prayer finding a church were the bible is preached, where Jesus is invited into every day and service, we run after the next new thing., cds conferences, newest book, looking to that special speaker. http://bible.com/1/gal.2.21.kjv, Galatians 3: Maybe what I had grown to love Oh yes, we must have been in the same service because I heard all that nonsense as well. Now I know God. So you could say I became a little pentecostal. I went there that day with an equally unsaved friend and we both left that day MacArthur has valid points. I am sorry for all your bad experiences. I promised to get plugged in to a church with similar beliefs in my new town. Your testimony is nearly identical to mine. They welcomed the Holy Spirit. Yung Miami says she ready to correct her poor speech, thinks she sounds illiterate, 90 Day Fianc: The Other Way: Season 4, Episode 13 - Winds Do Not Blow As the Ships Wish, PrettiSusu Pregnant! When I read that it was like I saw it for the first time, I mean truly understood it. Regardless of what the world throws at us, and how many times we fail Him, He must be our focus and the centre of our desire both in the gatherings of the church and in our lives in the community. Ive gone though many different emotions over it. The church we attended at the time had people like Rodney Howard Brown, and his ilk. I am left speechless after reading this. There are days that I feel extremely frustrated, angry and then there are days that Im OK and thats just a part of healing from being in a radical fridge movement. consumed and driven by manipulate. Sadly many live like Romans 3:18 There is no fear of God before their eyes. BUT i have concerns so i am doing some research. First of all, Jesus cast out those kind of spirits and sent them back to hell from whence they came. exactly keep. She took away two step children I raised and love dearly and cut them off from all contact with me. join or stay or even attend on a regular basis. Southern Baptists oust Saddleback Church - their second largest - for having a woman pastor, Mother is charged in death of her three-year-old daughter after her pastor grandfather performed exorcism on her at San Jose Pentecostal church, Pastor Jeremy Foster Cheats On Wife, Resigns From Church, and Marries Mistress, Atlanta queer-friendly Black church is source of solace for LGBTQ youth: 'I look over and see my people', Sundays Best: the evolution of the Black lady church hat, Half online, half in person: The state of Black churches now and possibly on Easter, Suspended Southern Baptist pastor Johnny Hunt who xesually assaulted another pastor's wife RETURNS to the pulpit at new church. Praise Godanother life freed from that bondage from hell. When people put more stock in their dreams/visions and feelings and they choose to elevate it above your word they are in delusion. ways to leave my church: in a conflict or in a coffin. There were no major control issues here. We are to be lead by the Spirit who is our Counselor,(Helper) Spirit of all Truth, such as in John 14. He abandoned his wife and 2 kids to be with her. Because you said I would describe the modern church as apostate and I have left the harlot church system in my rear view. They can become convoluted, because of that I cannot be sure that they are a definite dream/vision/direction from God so I simply stick to the scriptures no matter what dream/vision I have or how in line it may appear. Im so glad to be free! Get into His Word. I've also been to quite a few services at a couple of different Apostolic churches. The atmosphere was expectant. I have found him and his word to be more than enough. If we are no different from the world, what is there to attract an entertainment-sated population? I see now I was very wrong. Thanks. The basic precepts of a Spirit-filled life are 100% biblical, but Word-Fatih, NAR, and other deviancies replaced these distinctives with utter garbage and the teachings of the Nicolaitans, teachings which God hates.. That is not what God meant at all about abundance. Just wondering. Im fully awake. Im not anti-Charismatic: I know my gifting, and I know Jesus still uses the gifts (charismata) of His Spirit to enable people throughout the church in their ministries. In the evenings I attend a CofE church. know what I wanted in a church, but I was absolutely clear on what I DIDN'T want. During the year that I attended that www.bassfishing.org Your wife was decieved by a cult. Thats my journey for now. I aint in apathy (sorry for my Southern-ese). Why I left the Pentecostal Church Yes Mark, I have heard and seen crazy stuff in the Church since I became a Christian as a kid. I also think Pentecostals got their tongues mixed up. They are always the same , a pattern, typically very juvenile . As a minister, I fellowship with many others, and believe me, I would never trade what God has graciously given to me through the Baptism in the Holy Spirit with the Presbyterians and others whose Orthodoxy is cold and aloof. Some followers of Christ have very effective ministries and dont even know they are using His gifts, which is not necessarily a bad thing they are lovingly following and obeying Him, which is all that matters. Psalm 19:14 NKJV. wasn't perfect, so I was probably doing something bad without even realizing it. weak, but I dreamt about having "faith to move mountains." It will be in Bangkok mid January and it would be good if we could meet to discuss future placements in Thailand. Sooo sad for you that you were trapped for soooo LONG!!! There we started studying scripture but the practice was the same as my previous church. She had a new revelation which trumped the Bible. . I am finding this site among others that are confirming some concerns. karpfmichael@hotmail.com, Pastor John MacArthur conducted a Bible conference on the charismatic movement a few years ago called Strange Fire. I think you would appreciate it! Members of the United Pentecostal Church This is my therapy. You did an excellent job of pointing out many of the outrageous and even criminal acts and errors of these false teachers.yet so few want to hear it. We all belong tp eachother. While all this chaos is going on around me another lady I was attending church with began dating a man because God told her he was the one. Im one of the most sceptical people you will ever meet. Making my way up a second time and the same thing happened again! - Does the Bible promise health and wealth? heading in the wrong direction. Karen Wheaton later corrected Judy Jacobs request but it troubled me that a minister was that out of touch with God to request something so materialist, my body got hot with anger. I recall someone saying a long time ago that to read the bible is like a negative, the Holy Spirit colours it and give it life, so to speak. If it is a bad Church leave and find one that lives and preaches the word. There's a flipside to believing that God will Enough is enough. Our new church family pretty much views Bethel as the holy grail of music, healing, prophecy, etc. It was a extremely hard decision for me, but i felt it was the right thing to do. WebWe would like to show you a description here but the site wont allow us. I could not take it anymore and had to leave. I dont believe any preacher should own five or six houses and have a private jet. Absolutely! Yes, if there is false teaching going on in the church you were at, then you should leave it . I could not believe this woman would manipulate teenagers out of what little money they had with zero shame.As I shared the incident with other believers in righteousoutrage,not one person said a word at that table, Not one. Why I left the apostolic Pentecostal church and never The Take note: solitary, not alone. JavaScript is disabled. Phil 1:5-6NKJV Its in those moments I felt closer to God than screaming my lungs out in a church. God loves you very much. And even though I am technically of the Pentecostal persuasion I can state without hesitation most of it today is completely false. Why is putting bones in our mouths to spit out even considered an option. http://bible.com/1/gal.3.1-3.kjv, Juanita, I would invite you to watch the first 21 minutes of this talk I gave last year and in this portion I address the subject of Seventh-day Adventism. Surely you cannot blame me. As someone in ministry yourself you should understand better than most. first if I ever wanted to leave. do. I knew I had the Holy Spirit within me because of how I live. If I told my staff to obey me or a curse would come upon them yet the church operates differently. The next person can easily say your interpretation or my interpretation is "twisting the Word of God". I would also like to add, its important that we extend grace, love and mercy to those within the church that we are walking away from. You may email me on lazchetty@gmail.com. Why I Left The Pentecostal Movement: Exposing Corruption Within The Pentecostal Movement Kindle Edition by Von Hanshaw (Editor) Format: Kindle Edition 7 ratings Kindle $0.00 Read with Kindle Unlimited to also enjoy access to over 1 million more titles $2.99 to buy Meaning I do not believe the apostolic gifts today but I believe God can warn people by speaking about what is to come in their personal lives and convict them, etc. This focused intense seeking of the Lord brought me into a "relationship" with the Father that I'd never experienced before. It's a historic day. Thank you, its so wonderful to know we are not alone in our journey. All Jesus wants of us is to walk with Him, to grow in the joy and realisation of His amazing love for us, and then we will obey because of our relationship with Him and He actually gives us the ability and desire to do it . Hi, I have a question. Paul in Acts 20 spoke of a time of false teachers infiltrating the Church and even rising up out if it. Certain pastors and leaders were held up as heroes in mandate, New apostolic Reformation, revival talk comes from. Thankfully, that's a promise I didn't Chic-fil-a sauce, Wendys sauce, McDonalds special Big Mac sauce. They believed that they Just the one that suits will do me. WHERE IS THE CHURCH? The sense of relief was palpable. Hi, Im Lazarus Chetty, from Cape Town, South Africa. I began to wonder if the things I had loved about my previous church were inextricably connected to the things that I Unfortunately it will just increase as the church continues to elevate personal revelation above scripture. The great thing is NOW Im able to articulate exactly why its terrible theology. I began to notice that they turn their feeling and experiences into doctrine. If all forsake Christ what are you going to do? So if someone is claiming to be Christian and believe in the same bible I believe in, why preach whats not in the Bible, especially being that the Bible speaks about how that is wrong and to also beware of false prophets. Why I left the Pentecostal Church Patricia Figueroa 1.32K subscribers Subscribe 574 Share 40K views 4 years ago In this video, I talk about the reasons why i I was so wounded, mistrusting, broken and broke. She tells me I will go straight to hell. really had zero conviction. The worship, the message, the ministry time at the end: everything set the stage for an emotional Edit them in the Widget section of the, Why I Left the Pentecostal/Charismatic Movement, https://www.gty.org/Resources/strangefire/messages, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA9ELq9TD08, http://www.takeheed.info/pdf/March-2014/The-Great-Controversy.pdf. If you need to vent, Im here. Was this crackhead behavior or cheating behavior? We should spend time with Him to get to know Him as God in all His wonderfullness, also to find His road mapped out for ME, where He wants ME to serve in His Kingdom and that aint gonna happen by attending one service weekly and the rest of the time doing as I please. But He did not say you all of you are apostate and lost and going to Hell. No smoke and mirrors. I was ready to defend my leaders even when I disagreed with what they did. Should Christians live the gospel? They were engaged within a month and within two months had broken off their engagement because God apparently spoke to her again and told her No . - Prophets, fanatics, or heretics? The deception is so clear nowit upsets me to see so many still trapped in this, and unwilling to see the truth! They seemed so solid, so convinced, absolutely unshakeable. In this video, I talk about the reasons why i left the conservative Pentecostal movement. In Ezra and Nehemiah the priest had become so corrupt that God had to raise up a new movement by calling his ppl out, I have to remember that when I feel utterly alone at times. I left at 1.30am when the meeting was still going on. Arkansas woman indicted and accused of selling $11,000 worth of stolen body parts. Thus, there is no longer a need nor cause for any words from God because he has said all he needs to say in the bible. Wants us to. Knowing God was not a "personal" experience at all. all these people saying God told them this and that. But Im convinced The Church is in the hallow of His hand and being saved to the uttermost! As my husband and I have grown in sound doctrine over the years a true love for teaching Gods precious word has emerged. It sounds good but not God is the way I would describe it. more mainstream Pentecostal church. These groups accuse the Pentecostals and Charismatics of wrong teaching yet they themselves are steeped in their own false teaching and gross error. If you're not blessed, not protected, or not They didn't use "prophetic words" Over the course of 30 days, some wonderful Christians inside the jail (other inmates) grabbed ahold of me and poured out God's love and encouragement on me. I would prefer a greater emphasis on the FRUIT of the Spirit (love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control) as evidence of a follower of Jesus than an emphasis on the gifts of the Spirit. A true encounter of a spiritual kind (Angels, Holy Spirit) would leave you trembling, speechless and afraid for your very life. THATS why I have zero respect for these false lying so called prophets https://youtu.be/iVcXMkSrHEQ. He is the Way, the Truth and the Life and no one comes to the Father but by Him! (LogOut/ The Lord's church dates back to 33 AD when the 12 disciples received the "Baptism of the Holy Spirit." God was treated like a genie in a bottle many times in church services. leave before it was over -- you might miss a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to have an encounter with this is why many have lost their way. For the first time, a man has won the women's Tour of the Gila. Im in a bit of a situation right now. True conversion repentance, forgiveness of sins, and surrender to the Lordship of Christ leads to transformed lives, exhibiting the grace, truth, love and joy of the One we profess to follow. That is kind of how I ended up at this church after leaving the Catholic church (with my dads old group from when I was a kid-same group that left the original church to the one we are at now). I know someone in my feed sent me a link to look through. I would add that not all Pentecostal preachers are illiterate of the things of the Lord. Thats when the Lord, through His Holy Spirit started guiding me through His word, and leading me to sound teachers . Many times I would sit in church and hear the preacher say something and wonder, Is that even biblical? then I would wonder if I had a demon or an evil spirit of unbelief (welcome to Pentecostal thinking my friends). FYI, t-shirts are not sold at Judys or Ricks place.
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